How to pull specific helper operator from Global Table or List?

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Howard asked Aug 21 2024 at 12:49 AM Logan Gold commented Sep 18 2024 at 3:55 PM

How to pull specific helper operator from Global Table or List?

I want to setup a model where when the main operator is called out, a helper operator is call out at the same time.

I have created a Global Table for each of the task operators need to perform and the process flow will iterate through the Global Table until completion. The last column has the Helper Operator Group which needs to be called when the specific row task is performed. For example, Row 1 needs to call one helper operator from Group "5".

Condition 1: When an item needs to process in Processor 5 which call out Dispatcher 1's operator or an item needs to process in Processor 6 which call out Dispatcher 2's operator, 1 helper operator needs to call out from Dispatcher 5.

Condition 2 is similar to Condition 1: Dispatcher helper operator will support Dispatcher 3 and 4.

What option do I have for setting up pulling helper operator from dispatcher?

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FlexSim 24.1.1

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Howard commented · Aug 27 2024 at 1:05 PM

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Logan Gold ♦♦ commented · Aug 30 2024 at 9:19 PM

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Logan Gold ♦♦ Logan Gold ♦♦ commented · Sep 18 2024 at 3:55 PM

@Howard, have you been able to resolve your issues, or do you still need help with this question?

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Answer 1 · 2024-08-27T13:08:06Z

Jason Lightfoot answered Aug 27 2024 at 1:08 PM Jason Lightfoot edited Sep 10 2024 at 10:25 AM

Here's the start of something you could try:

There may be better ways and the question of how you will get both to coordinate remains open. You might want to check out this article of having teams load, unload and travel.

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Howard commented · Sep 02 2024 at 1:44 PM

In your model, may I know why the dispatcher 5 and 6 operators did not move to the processor?

Let me simplify what I want the model to do. Let's say there is no dispatcher 5 or 6 which has support operators.

Condition 1: When an item needs to process in Processor 5 which call out Dispatcher 1's operator, certain task need another operator from Dispatcher 2 or 3 which will be signaled from the Global Table.

Task:

Task #1 (Row 1) has Product 5 and it calls out main operator from Dispatcher 1 and it needs another operator from Dispatcher 2.
Task #2 (Row 2) has Product 5 and it calls out main operator from Dispatcher 1 and it needs another operator from Dispatcher 3.

Would your model will work in this case or there is simpler solutions?

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Jason Lightfoot ♦♦ Howard commented · Sep 03 2024 at 8:56 AM

As I said - it's only a start - they don't move since I've not given tasks to the token.helperSequence (renamed in updated model). That's because I think it's better done using a team subflow, as I eluded above.

You might consider actually making the table fields pointers to the dispatchers rather than those numerics as they would need currently need altering if you chose to give more meaningful names to your dispatchers.

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Howard Jason Lightfoot ♦♦ commented · Sep 09 2024 at 7:18 PM

Hi Jason, the example you provided looks like it's for getting multiple operators to transport the item in the sub-flow only. Is there an option to add multiple operators at the processor only?

Simple Team Subflows - Travel, Load, Unload - FlexSim Community

In my model, there is a group of operators (Dispatcher0) dedicated to move the item so it's good. Multiple operators are already called out by the processor in the Setup Time Custom Code based on the Global Table lookup already.

All I need now is to call out one additional operator from another dispatcher to perform quality check along with the current working operator.

My model has QC operators in Dispatcher3 and Dispatcher4. These QC operators are mostly dedicated for Processor7 and Processor8 but then Processor5 or Processor6 might need QC operators from Dispatcher3 or Dispatcher4 sometimes.

How do I apply those new "helper" label and request additional QC operators?

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